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Io ho ascoltato e lo trovo molto interessante
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D52wSNH0078
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sì molto interessante. li ho visti tutti, li aveva già postati qualcuno
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I don't want to go inside the merit of every point people discusses here. I have my ideas about Kenenisa, Paula and other athletes, and in the most part of cases it's different from the idea of the most part of posters here.
But, when I see one person (aduck 2022) speaking about doping for Shaheen, and I read that "when a runner moves to Bahrain or Qatar etc it says 'they are on something", I have to say that who writes like this LOST COMPLETELY EVERY CREDIBILITY to my eyes.
Shaheen NEVER used any supplement, not only illegal substances : never some vitamin, never mineral salts, never drinks like Gatorade or Red Bull : NOTHING !!!
Under this side, he was completely atypical, since all the other athletes I had (that of course never used any doping) liked to drink these "energy drinks" when possible (maybe because the taste was good, not because hypothetical advantages), and when the weather was very hot used mineral salts.
Also, the fact many athletes went Bahrein or Qatar doesn't mean anything, if the athletes don't live in these Countries. The situation of Bahrein and Qatar was very different : Qatar had a transparent negotiation between the ministry of Interior (Qatar) and the ministry of Sport (Kenya) in 2002-2003 looking at some top athlete for competing at the best possible level during the Asian Games organized in Doha in 2006. Qatar government offered to build a stadium for one millin dollars with a tartan track, with the possibility to naturalize two strong athletes, plus other 7 athletes unknown. The two strong athletes were Stephen Cherono and Albert Chepkirui, and were proposed by Athletics Kenya itself. The second group of athletes was chosen by myself, in 2004, when I became the responsible for the endurance in Qatar, and were in the most part of cases unknown (Richard Yatich, David Nyaga, Daniel Kosgei, Kipkemoi Katui and Thomas Kiplagat). AK authorized, after OG 2004, also to change citizenship other two athletes of my group, already strong, because not qualified for Olympics (James Kwalia and Nicholas Kemboi), who maintained their original names.
Everybody had to give back their Kenyan Passport, and they became official citizens of Qatar (at that time, in Kenya the double citizenship still didn't exist).
Today, there is the double citizenship, so all the athletes moving from Kenya to Bahrein (Qatar didn't look for any new Kenyan after 2006) now act individually, without any negotiation between Bahreini and Kenyan Federation, since can remain Kenyan in any case.
All these athletes trained, and train now, in Kenya. I can't speak about Bahrein, but when I was responsible in Qatar, Qatari Federation (as officials, doctors, physios) didn't have any influence with the athletes, who were with me for 11 months every year, mainly in Kenya, but during summer also in St. Moritz or Italy, with a Kenyan physio (who works with me still now) and, sometimes, another physio from Ukraine that was totally under control. I refused to have with me ANY DOCTOR of Qatar (at that time, the doctor of Federation was from Bulgaria), and sent back Doha a lot of supplements they sent Kenya for the athletes.
Many of you have to understand that, when we speak about "Countries with the tendency to dope athletes" (and there are several of them), one thing is to refer to athletes LIVING an TRAINING in those Countries, other thing to refer to athletes LIVING and TRAINING in THEIR ORIGINAL CONTRY : and, of course, Kenyan or Ethiopian athletes, born, living and training in altitude, NEVER go in Countries at sea level, with 50 C degrees from May till October, for training.
Another poster connects the muscles of Kenenisa with the assumption of steroids when was very young. Apart the idea that a boy living 400 kms far from Addis and without any manager can take steroids in a Ethiopian village, the story of Kenenisa (I was his coach for about one year) is very different :
1) Kenenisa went school 8 km far from his house. Some day, he could stay in the school for lunch, sometimes not, so he walked and ran from 16 to 32 km per day. But he didn't like running, he liked football (soccer), so, after returning home, he played every day from 4 to 6 hours with a group of friends. This is the reason because of his muscle power : morphology (he's a shortlined, very different from the normal morphology of Ethiopian and Kenyan runners) and years of strength training, kicking the ball and running up and down.
2) Because he won all the competitions he had in the school, and after this won immediately at national level, he was from the beginning the most talented Ethiopian athlete. So, when he learnt that, running in Europe, he could earn some money (he was not yet 17een), HE ASKED FEDERATION TO PREPARE HIM A PASSPORT ONE YEAR OLDER THAN HIS REAL AGE, because it aws not possible for him to go Europe if not yet 18.
Of course, Ethiopian Federation refused, so KENENISA IS PROBABLY THE ONLY ETHIOPIAN WITH A CORRECT DATE OF BIRTH ON HIS PASSPORT, EXACTLY AS STEPHEN CEHRONO IN KENYA : they were so strong when REALLY youth, that never had the need to change in order to find a manager or to compete in agre groups.
Last thing, only for speaking about the truth.
I'm tired, and not interested, about all these posts regarding Paula Radcliffe. However, about the temperature in Vilamoura when she won WHMCh, I can say (because I was there) that REALLY the temperature was MORE THAN 30 C. In these cases (not only Vilamoura), I suggest NEVER give importance to the official data. While the data about one competition on track can be ok, because the stadium can maintain similar situations everywhere and the duration of the race is not very long (so, if somebody wants to check the temperature at the beginning of the race, probably it's very similar at the end, also if normally the machine for temperature and humidity is under the stairs, while the competitions are on the track, and this can produce big difference), the data about road races are ALWAYS very fake :
a) Big difference between start and finish (for example, in Chicago Marathon 2011 the start was at 16 C, the end for women at 29 C)
b) Big difference of influence of the same temperature in different conditions. For example, 25 C under the shadow of a tree are pleasant, 25 C for one hour under the full sun are terrible, and the temperature is the same. In the case of road races, we have also to consider the temperature of the ground : tarmac can easily grow to 40-45 C under full sun, when the temperature at 3 meters higher is 25 C (look at Formula One, when they have to decide type of tyre depending on the temperature on the ground).
I had in that competitions many athletes, one of them medalling (Martin Sulle bronze for men), and I remember the competition for men started at 10am, with a temperature about 22 C, but women started at 11:30, and already at the start it was not possible to stay, standing, on the road because of the heat. I don't discuss all the other data, because I don't know and, honestly, I'm not interested, but about this, 30 C is for me the MINIMAL temperature during the race.
Read more: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read. ... z4KK7QzTGp
eccolo in un recentissimo intervento, sempre battagliero
But, when I see one person (aduck 2022) speaking about doping for Shaheen, and I read that "when a runner moves to Bahrain or Qatar etc it says 'they are on something", I have to say that who writes like this LOST COMPLETELY EVERY CREDIBILITY to my eyes.
Shaheen NEVER used any supplement, not only illegal substances : never some vitamin, never mineral salts, never drinks like Gatorade or Red Bull : NOTHING !!!
Under this side, he was completely atypical, since all the other athletes I had (that of course never used any doping) liked to drink these "energy drinks" when possible (maybe because the taste was good, not because hypothetical advantages), and when the weather was very hot used mineral salts.
Also, the fact many athletes went Bahrein or Qatar doesn't mean anything, if the athletes don't live in these Countries. The situation of Bahrein and Qatar was very different : Qatar had a transparent negotiation between the ministry of Interior (Qatar) and the ministry of Sport (Kenya) in 2002-2003 looking at some top athlete for competing at the best possible level during the Asian Games organized in Doha in 2006. Qatar government offered to build a stadium for one millin dollars with a tartan track, with the possibility to naturalize two strong athletes, plus other 7 athletes unknown. The two strong athletes were Stephen Cherono and Albert Chepkirui, and were proposed by Athletics Kenya itself. The second group of athletes was chosen by myself, in 2004, when I became the responsible for the endurance in Qatar, and were in the most part of cases unknown (Richard Yatich, David Nyaga, Daniel Kosgei, Kipkemoi Katui and Thomas Kiplagat). AK authorized, after OG 2004, also to change citizenship other two athletes of my group, already strong, because not qualified for Olympics (James Kwalia and Nicholas Kemboi), who maintained their original names.
Everybody had to give back their Kenyan Passport, and they became official citizens of Qatar (at that time, in Kenya the double citizenship still didn't exist).
Today, there is the double citizenship, so all the athletes moving from Kenya to Bahrein (Qatar didn't look for any new Kenyan after 2006) now act individually, without any negotiation between Bahreini and Kenyan Federation, since can remain Kenyan in any case.
All these athletes trained, and train now, in Kenya. I can't speak about Bahrein, but when I was responsible in Qatar, Qatari Federation (as officials, doctors, physios) didn't have any influence with the athletes, who were with me for 11 months every year, mainly in Kenya, but during summer also in St. Moritz or Italy, with a Kenyan physio (who works with me still now) and, sometimes, another physio from Ukraine that was totally under control. I refused to have with me ANY DOCTOR of Qatar (at that time, the doctor of Federation was from Bulgaria), and sent back Doha a lot of supplements they sent Kenya for the athletes.
Many of you have to understand that, when we speak about "Countries with the tendency to dope athletes" (and there are several of them), one thing is to refer to athletes LIVING an TRAINING in those Countries, other thing to refer to athletes LIVING and TRAINING in THEIR ORIGINAL CONTRY : and, of course, Kenyan or Ethiopian athletes, born, living and training in altitude, NEVER go in Countries at sea level, with 50 C degrees from May till October, for training.
Another poster connects the muscles of Kenenisa with the assumption of steroids when was very young. Apart the idea that a boy living 400 kms far from Addis and without any manager can take steroids in a Ethiopian village, the story of Kenenisa (I was his coach for about one year) is very different :
1) Kenenisa went school 8 km far from his house. Some day, he could stay in the school for lunch, sometimes not, so he walked and ran from 16 to 32 km per day. But he didn't like running, he liked football (soccer), so, after returning home, he played every day from 4 to 6 hours with a group of friends. This is the reason because of his muscle power : morphology (he's a shortlined, very different from the normal morphology of Ethiopian and Kenyan runners) and years of strength training, kicking the ball and running up and down.
2) Because he won all the competitions he had in the school, and after this won immediately at national level, he was from the beginning the most talented Ethiopian athlete. So, when he learnt that, running in Europe, he could earn some money (he was not yet 17een), HE ASKED FEDERATION TO PREPARE HIM A PASSPORT ONE YEAR OLDER THAN HIS REAL AGE, because it aws not possible for him to go Europe if not yet 18.
Of course, Ethiopian Federation refused, so KENENISA IS PROBABLY THE ONLY ETHIOPIAN WITH A CORRECT DATE OF BIRTH ON HIS PASSPORT, EXACTLY AS STEPHEN CEHRONO IN KENYA : they were so strong when REALLY youth, that never had the need to change in order to find a manager or to compete in agre groups.
Last thing, only for speaking about the truth.
I'm tired, and not interested, about all these posts regarding Paula Radcliffe. However, about the temperature in Vilamoura when she won WHMCh, I can say (because I was there) that REALLY the temperature was MORE THAN 30 C. In these cases (not only Vilamoura), I suggest NEVER give importance to the official data. While the data about one competition on track can be ok, because the stadium can maintain similar situations everywhere and the duration of the race is not very long (so, if somebody wants to check the temperature at the beginning of the race, probably it's very similar at the end, also if normally the machine for temperature and humidity is under the stairs, while the competitions are on the track, and this can produce big difference), the data about road races are ALWAYS very fake :
a) Big difference between start and finish (for example, in Chicago Marathon 2011 the start was at 16 C, the end for women at 29 C)
b) Big difference of influence of the same temperature in different conditions. For example, 25 C under the shadow of a tree are pleasant, 25 C for one hour under the full sun are terrible, and the temperature is the same. In the case of road races, we have also to consider the temperature of the ground : tarmac can easily grow to 40-45 C under full sun, when the temperature at 3 meters higher is 25 C (look at Formula One, when they have to decide type of tyre depending on the temperature on the ground).
I had in that competitions many athletes, one of them medalling (Martin Sulle bronze for men), and I remember the competition for men started at 10am, with a temperature about 22 C, but women started at 11:30, and already at the start it was not possible to stay, standing, on the road because of the heat. I don't discuss all the other data, because I don't know and, honestly, I'm not interested, but about this, 30 C is for me the MINIMAL temperature during the race.
Read more: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read. ... z4KK7QzTGp
eccolo in un recentissimo intervento, sempre battagliero
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è aggressivo, non rispetta le opinioni altrui, deve essere bannato 
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Renato Canova mi è molto simpatico, lo ritengo intelligentissimo, brillante e ovviamente il grandissimo allenatore che è. Ma quando parla di doping non mi convince fino in fondo. Sicuramente è contro il doping e lo combatte. Ma forse, per eccesso di amore per la corsa e per gli atleti, tende alcune volte a sottovalutare.
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Oggi con il doping non è facile capire come stanno veramente le cose oltre le versioni ufficiali.
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quando parla di altri può anche sottovalutare, quando parla dei suoi tipo Shaheen o dice il vero o dice bugie, un allenatore del genere non può non sapere se il proprio atleta è pulito o meno.Ericradis ha scritto:Renato Canova mi è molto simpatico, lo ritengo intelligentissimo, brillante e ovviamente il grandissimo allenatore che è. Ma quando parla di doping non mi convince fino in fondo. Sicuramente è contro il doping e lo combatte. Ma forse, per eccesso di amore per la corsa e per gli atleti, tende alcune volte a sottovalutare.
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